In my many years of gardening, I have been fortunate to be friends with a great many prominent Master Gardeners, Plants Breeders, Landscape Architects and Designers. I have remained friends with many of these people for the last few decades. They are interesting people. Interestingly, I know many of them socially, not through gardening, but through mutual friends, though some I know through various garden interests.
Since I began seriously breeding daylilies (as opposed to just growing and collecting them) in 2009, I have been speaking with these friends and acquaintances about their views on daylilies. They have had some interesting and often unflattering things to say. I take their opinions seriously due to their prominent positions in their fields, but also due to my respect for them and their work.
As I have always had a focus on the breeding of disease resistance in both plants and animals, this is a subject I always get around to in my discussions with these friends. In the last couple of years, I have been making rust resistance an important selection point in my daylily breeding and so that has often been a matter of discussion with my friends. They have strong opinions. Over the last year, I have come up with a list of very pointed and specific questions that I have been asking these people in regards to daylilies.
Before I get into the feedback I have been receiving, I want to also mention that I have been building relationships in the daylily world over the last few years, and it is common knowledge behind the scenes that daylily sales have been in decline for about a decade now. Many prominent breeders have told me this is mostly due to rust, while a few also mention the economic downturn of the last years and some point out that people have become tired of the exorbitant prices of new introductions, especially when so many aren't that different or have problems. One told me (and some of you reading this will know who this is by having been told the same thing by this well-known person), "The golden age of daylilies is over."
So we have good evidence that the interest in daylilies has been declining in the daylily world itself, and while we may debate the causes (and there are likely several), rust has in no way helped. With this in mind, I wanted to find out what the rest of the gardening world was thinking about daylilies and if that same decline was being seen in the non-daylily-specialty gardening world. Unfortunately I have to report that it is.
When in conversation with my gardening friends, many will mention that they have mixed feelings about daylilies. Some feel the foliage is ugly and thus the plant is only good when in flower, which outside the few reliable rebloomers, is about a month out of twelve months in the year. However, in spite of this, some of my friends still use daylilies and simply find ways to mask the foliage when the plants are not in bloom. One clever friend plants daylilies with tall scapes behind small shrubs and medium sized perennials to block the foliage, but still see the flowers.
Many of my friends prefer older daylilies that are well tested and reliable for garden use. While they generally like the flowers of the newer, ornately flowered cultivars, they find them useless in the landscape for many reasons, including the large wilted flowers needing to be daily removed, the edges hanging and the flowers not properly opening, the flowers being overdone and not working well with a landscape design, and (the one I hear the most) the poor performance of many newer daylilies compared to the older cultivars.
One friend told me, "Daylilies had always been so hardy, but they were very plain, then they bred up nice flowers and nice hardy plants and I still use some of those, mostly from the 1960's through 1980's, but as soon as they did that, they immediately started breeding those overdone flowers with poor plants that don't do well in the garden and don't work well in landscape design and ruined the daylily as a garden plant." Another said, "Why don't daylily breeders work on nice foliage? The foliage is visible much longer than the month of flowers on most of them. They are often wonderfully hardy, but I just don't get how in 100 years, they couldn't have improved the foliage."
However, the responses in regards to rust have been both the most interesting and most disheartening. Only two out of 17 of these people have not encountered rust to some level in their work. Of those 17, 12 will no longer consider daylilies in their work or gardens or will only use older, tried-and-true cultivars that they have found to have suitable resistance. None of them are willing to implement an expensive spraying program for daylilies. Of the five who will still keep or use daylilies, two are those that have not yet had rust.
On using daylilies in landscapes and gardens -
This one gets a lot of replies, often quite heated. Three of these people didn't much care for or use daylilies to begin with. Several are just adamant they won't use daylilies anymore, but did before rust swept through various plantings. Some have kept the cultivars in their gardens and customer's gardens that showed little or no rust and divided those, using them in place of the susceptible that they threw out. Some just threw them all out.
One friend said, "I loved using daylilies, especially the older cultivars with good scape height that could have the ugly, yellowing foliage hidden but the flowers still seen, and those older cultivars had simpler, more wildflower-like flowers that worked best in my landscape designs, but since rust appeared, I am much more careful about using daylilies in my clients landscapes." He recounted to me a horror story of a client who was fond of daylilies and so they had used a good number of newer (read expensive) cultivars in her landscape design only to have most of them rust over the first time rust entered the area. He offered to spray the daylilies for her, but her reply was that she really loved roses, but didn't keep them because of the spraying they required and she had only been growing daylilies as a substitute for roses, so she certainly wasn't going to be spraying daylilies! They ripped them all out and threw them in the trash.
One friend, who is a well known and very in-demand landscape designer and Master Gardener had a lot of things to say that I can't repeat in a public forum due to all the four-letter words, but I will distill the essence here for you. He feels that the daylily world is directly to blame for not getting on the ball and being more honest and forthcoming about rust, and especially for not making a concerted effort to identify resistant cultivars and to then breed up more resistant cultivars. He says that every successful garden plant has at one time or another faced disease issues and that it is the responsibility of the breeders to breed for resistance. He says that anyone breeding anything should know from numerous examples amongst other plant types that resistance breeding is possible. He says that he will never use daylilies in any of his projects again because you can't reliably get information on resistance and that the breeders seem not to care at all about their clients needs and he won't forget it. (I did go on to tell him about several cultivars I know to have reliable resistance in many locations and he says he will consider trying a few of those, just to see what happens, in his home garden. I will keep on him and see if he can't be convinced by a few of these. I just sent him a box of plants that have been reliably resistant here, for him to try out and I have my fingers crossed, and you should too, because this is someone with a huge platform and a powerful voice in the plant and landscape world!)
On spraying daylilies to control rust -
This question has prompted some interesting reactions. The biggest reaction is peels of uproarious laughter. The other most common reaction involves lots of four-letter words that are unprintable here. In short, none of these people are remotely willing to start a spraying program for daylilies.
One friend said, "Why on earth would I waste a clients money to spray a disease-prone weed?" That was the kindest thing he had to say.
Another said basically the same thing, adding, " The daylilies have always been little more than wildflowers in my landscaping work and they are not worth the time, bother and expense of spraying when I can just rip them out and put some of the wonderful new coneflower cultivars in their place."
Another said that if he were going to start an expensive spraying program that had to be repeated throughout the year, he would rather start using roses. He said there was no chance of him advising a client to plant daylilies and then take on the expense of a spraying program.
In all, none of these seventeen people saw a spraying program for daylilies as a wise investment of resources and effort and none said they would even consider it. The consensus was that they would either stop using, advising and growing daylilies altogether if spraying is a necessity or that they would only use/grow those that did not require spraying. The overall view was that daylilies did not have enough value in their gardens or design work to merit spraying, and one went out of his way to point out that daylily breeders needed to realize this fact!
On rust resistant daylilies-
This question drew, for me, the most interesting and promising responses. There are two main points or lines of questioning here. One is - "Would you use daylilies if you could get rust resistant cultivars?" and the other is "How resistant do daylilies have to be for you to feel they are usable, or said another way, how much rust can you tolerate?"
On the first question, in all instances except the three people who didn't like daylilies to begin with, all the respondents said they would be interested in using daylilies again or beginning to use more daylilies in their projects if reliably resistant plants were easily obtainable. They all felt these didn't have to be new resistant cultivars, but could be any of the older cultivars (no matter how old) that showed good to excellent resistance. All felt that resistant cultivars were the only solution to rust in the garden because spraying was not a reasonable or viable option. Several had already been using those cultivars they had or that were in their clients gardens that had shown moderate to no rust, and some had torn out the rust magnets to replace them with divisions from those more reliable cultivars.
On the second question, none of them felt that total immunity was required (even the three who didn't like daylilies), but that moderate to high resistance was desirable and would be enough. One said, "I don't mind a little rust and my clients don't see it if it doesn't get out of hand. The real problem is those cultivars that are simply covered in rust, because they are wretched looking in the landscape, my clients notice them and complain and their performance is often compromised in the following season, if I haven't already removed them." Another said, "The problem is not a bit of rust and absolute immunity may be unrealistic in any species. The problem is those that look like fountains of orange felt spraying to the four winds. These are the plants giving such a bad name to daylilies, even those that don't show it as badly." A third said, "If my clients don't notice it, and it doesn't kill the plant, then there is no problem."
I believe this applies to average gardeners too. For instance, when I first showed my mother and my aunt a rusty plant, they couldn't tell there was a problem and I had to bring up a leaf and show them the rust on it for them to see the problem. They both commented that, "...daylily leaves are so ugly and yellowed by this time of the year anyhow, I just thought that was all that was." Most gardeners are going to feel the same and not be bothered by a small amount of rust. However, the full-blown rust magnet is a different story. My mother and aunt can spot those across the garden and they don't like those and I end up getting to pull those and add them to the trash bin. This is basically the exact sentiment I keep hearing from my professional gardening friends.
What I found amongst these professional people is that they have an understanding that total immunity is unrealistic, that any pathogen may mutate and thus breach the resistance of a given plant and that all resistant plants may not remain so in perpetuity. One said that he uses lots of coneflowers (echinacea), especially the newer cultivars, but that they don't last forever and often are replaced with seedlings of lesser merit, so he rips them out and replaces them every few years, and he wouldn't feel bad about doing that with a daylily either. He felt that if he got three, five or even ten years of good use out of a cultivar and then it failed in resistance, and could be replaced with a newer cultivar with resistance, even if again it only lasted of a number of years, that this would be no problem. As he says, "The perennial plants in a garden are generally not permanent installations." What he is troubled by is purchasing a daylily, planting it and then having to pull it out after one season because it became a rust fountain. He says that daylilies are simply too expensive to be treated as annuals...I can see the logic.
So in closing, I hope our tour of terror hasn't caused you too much stress or fear. Things are changing for the daylily. Rust is a pressure that isn't going away and will reform the daylily world, no matter how much we resist. If we can accept this new reality and flow with it, I think we will be much better off than if we ignore it, remain in denial and pretend that expensive, repetitious and labor-intensive spraying programs is an answer. These programs may be reasonable for sellers, but not so much for most gardeners.
So let us look again at the main thrust of the feedback I have received.
- Aside from rust, the biggest complaint about daylilies is the less-hardy new plants with overdone flowers that require pruning of spent flowers and don't open well, as well as less-than-attractive foliage (on old and new cultivars). To me, focusing a little less on how many edges are there and a little more on how the foliage holds up could be a shift in the right direction to keep the daylily appealing beyond a small group of collectors.
- Rust is turning landscapers, garden designers, Master Gardeners and gardeners in general off from the daylily, and may not be helping the popularity of the daylily amongst daylily people either. Most specifically, it is the very rust-susceptible (the 'rust magnet' or 'rust fountain') that are causing this feeling.
- Landscapers, garden designers, Master Gardeners, and general hobby and home gardeners are not very interested in starting a spraying regimen against daylily rust, especially when they do not view the daylily as a top-line garden plant and have so many other hardy and spray-free choices for their gardens.
- The Master Gardeners, landscapers, garden designers and general gardeners I have spoken with do not expect total immunity against rust. They would be content with good to high resistance manifesting as moderate to low rust sporation in their gardens and client's gardens. Most are realistic in understanding that resistance is tenuous and may not be permanent. They would be content with some resistance and would continue to utilize daylilies that show some resistance and do not become unsightly due to massive rust sporation.