I was interviewed back in the summer for Greenhouse Management Magazine's 'Meet The Breeder' feature. The article is now available both in the magazine and at their website. The link to the article at their website is: https://www.greenhousemag.com/article/brian-reeder-sun-dragon-daylilies-meet-breeder-daylily/
Monday, September 23, 2024
New Interview - Greenhouse Management Magazine
I was interviewed back in the summer for Greenhouse Management Magazine's 'Meet The Breeder' feature. The article is now available both in the magazine and at their website. The link to the article at their website is: https://www.greenhousemag.com/article/brian-reeder-sun-dragon-daylilies-meet-breeder-daylily/
Friday, July 26, 2024
The Secondary Layer of My Introductions
The last article I wrote for this series on my daylily breeding program dealt with F1 base plants from the Four Bases, the primary layer of my program, that have gone on to become introductions and primary breeders in my program. In that article I described the Foundational Tetraploid Introductions of my program, with a focus on Sun Dragon and Korean Queen, and the role they play in the development of my program. In this post I will look at the next layer of introductions from my program - the Secondary Layer. We will touch on some important plants at this level, introductions I have made at this level of my program. Click on any of the linked subjects above to read about that aspect of my program.
The secondary layer of my program is composed of hybrid, domestic tetraploid daylily cultivars. It is based 100% in the work of flower breeders, who have given us amazing lineages of daylily flowers, all stemming from the foundational work of A. B. Stout. My love for the beautiful flower genetics of the modern daylilies meant that I could not start strictly from species and near-species-like cultivars. Even though I knew I would inevitably produce flowers in the early generations of my program superficially similar to the Stout cultivars, I did not want to start with the handicap of having to remake the fancy flower genetics from scratch.
I knew I had to incorporate those advanced flower genes from the fancy gene pool, and by using such plants, that gave me a tremendous leg-up on Stout in terms of genetic potential. My early outcrosses are all saturated with recessive (and some co-dominant or low-penetrant-dominant) fancy flower genes. In order to do this, I had to ensure from the get-go that I had a sound base of modern flower genetics to cross into those species-like base plants to create lines advanced in both plant and flower traits.
While there is not a massive phenotypic range of plant traits in the domestic tetraploid gene pool, unlike its flower genetic variations, that gene pool shows a bell curve from a tiny number of plants showing exceptional traits to a large middle ground of moderate or adequate traits - we’ll call them ‘average', to the other end of the bell curve - highly undesirable traits. The key was to isolate plants that are on the upper end of the possible spectrum for desirable plant traits within the very bottle-necked tetraploid hybrid gene pool, with enough fertility to be viable, and that were low enough in recessive, hidden deleterious traits to be backcrossed to in the future. It takes time to make such determinations. As well, from the start I was on the outlook for any fancy moderns that broke the upper end of the bell curve spectrum and showed an exceptional plant trait, such as pod fertility/seedling viability, exceptional rust resistance/breeding value, thrips resistance/breeding value, vigor, height, branching, etc. (You can read about the secondary level introductions from other programs that I have focused on in establishing my program here, Secondary Layer.)
To do that, I brought in many fancy cultivars and tested them through the foundational period of my program, during the first ten years from 2011 through 2021. My criterion was to find fancy domestic cultivars that were good enough growers and breeders to be worth permanently maintaining and even potentially being backcrossed to, or inbred with, at some future point in my program. This is the main criterion for the secondary layer of my program: a plant I would not be afraid to inbreed with or to backcross to in the future.
I also used quite a number of other cultivars in experimental breeding, and some of them even contributed genes that I am still trialing out, but I would not trust backcrossing to them or inbreeding with them. They compromise the Tertiary Layer of my program - plants good enough, or with unusual or very desirable flower traits, to use once, but not good enough to go back to for backcrossing and absolutely not to be used for inbreeding.
The program then falls into three categories: foundational base plants - species or species-like, secondary hybrid cultivars, and tertiary hybrid cultivars. At the foundation of my program, the species and species-like base plants were being crossed to either secondary or tertiary plants. In the early years of establishing a program, there was no way to know yet if a given cultivar was going to end up being secondary, tertiary, or not used entirely.
I quickly came to understand that crossing plants from the secondary or tertiary level with each other often produced less vigorous and more genetically similar results. I.e., while flower variation was high in some instances, plant traits were fairly uniformly locked into narrow parameters, so that there was little opportunity to select for resistance to thrips, for instance. The same was true with rust resistance and other important and desirable plant traits.
The plants deriving from crosses of the four species/species-like base plants to either secondary or tertiary plants all showed greater genetic diversity for a range of plant traits, and were infused with fancy, modern flower genetics to boot, creating the genetic background from which more genetically diverse plants with fancy flower traits can be generated and segregated. However, it requires genetic diversity to make such selections. In the species/species-like base plants, there was little genetic diversity for flower traits - for instance, none of them show or carry genes for purple coloring. While in the fancy flowered hybrids, there was little genetic diversity for natural fertility, high vigor, and a host of other desirable plant traits.
While there may be a handful of examples that show one such trait exceptional and above even the high end of the spectrum, it is extremely rare to find a modern, hybrid cultivar that shows multiple important plant traits in the exceptional level all combined into one plant. That is what the most important of the secondary hybrid cultivars I selected showed - a higher than average number of, and expression of, desirable plant traits in combination with a modern, fancy flower. I can say that the best of all the secondary cultivars that I have tested, which shows the greatest number of desirable traits on one plant, is Solaris Symmetry.
To date, Solaris Symmetry is the only fancy, modern hybrid from someone else’s program that I have successfully backcrossed to repeatedly and used in tight inbreeding, including selfing. I have tried these techniques with many other fancy, modern hybrids, but have uncovered a large number of undesirable and/or deleterious factors lurking in their genes, and so those plants were eliminated from full secondary status consideration, some becoming the low end of secondary (where they were still above average, but not exceptional) and others becoming tertiary level, while some were eliminated from consideration entirely.
I current still have a small handful of hybrid cultivars from other people’s programs that are in the final stages of testing to potentially join Solaris Symmetry in its vaunted position within my program. The key to understanding my focus on Solaris Symmetry is that it shows far above average, exceptional thrips resistance, in addition to having multiple other desirable plant traits. (Read more about Solaris Symmetry here.)
However, out of my own breeding work has come introductions that are crosses of secondary hybrid cultivars from other programs, or crosses of secondary and tertiary hybrid cultivars from other programs, that are entering the secondary level, some remaining important for their fancy flower traits on strong, selected plants but not gaining full secondary level status like Solaris Symmetry, while others are potentially moving into the high status of Solaris Symmetry. Many of these will end up being maintained and utilized in my program for years to come, and are foundational to it.
These plants do not descend from any of the Four Bases, and so do not carry the outcrossed, species/species-like genetics. They are fully a part of the standard, hybrid tetraploid daylily gene pool, but represent those that have been the best performers in my garden. My goal in generating these plants was to create a base of hybrid genetics that represented the high end of the spectrum in terms of plant traits and flower traits, or exceptional instances exceeding it, that could be used to outcross to the Four Bases or to F1 Selected Seedlings/Introductions. While these plants are screened for traits like rust resistance and thrips resistance, they have not been bred specifically for either, because they were coming strictly from the fairly random and narrow gene pool of the tetraploid hybrids.
It is important to understand the distinction between applied selection through screening and through actually breeding for specific traits. In the first example, screening for resistance, whether to pests, pathogens or other traits, one is taking a random sample of plants and selecting for a set number of traits. In this phase, I was looking for the high end of the spectrum for desired traits, while staying alert to recognize exceptional individuals that greatly exceeded the high end of the average spectrum. While such plants may then also prove to have breeding value for their expressed trait, they also may not. Screening doesn’t guarantee exceptional plants. What it does is identify the full spectrum of phenotypes expressed within a given gene pool.
Resistance breeding, or breeding for select traits is a different endeavor. In this practice you are seeking to establish breeding value for traits, and to then amplify those signals within the genome, which in turn creates a higher number of desired specimens. As well, selective breeding can allow for the concentration of exceptional traits, rare and hard to find in the average gene pool, while also allowing for the pyramiding of genes and other modification factors that can intensify the frequency and penetrance of a given trait within a population.
Now in common English, this means that the standard tetraploid gene pool, even at its best, has limitations, an upward ceiling that is very difficult to break, due to the intense inbreeding and subsequent genetic bottleneck of these lines. It also means that the best plants from screening the standard tetraploid lines for desirable traits like thrips resistance or plant vigor may not be much more than average. In thrips resistance for instance, almost no daylilies show any resistance to thrips, so even the high end of the average expression is not spectacular, as it is in the exceptional individual Solaris Symmetry or some of its descendants and relatives. Other daylilies without this lineage in them, even when showing higher than average resistance, still may not be really all that resistant and will still show considerable thrips interaction, especially in the early part of the season or when the conditions become very dry.
Most of my secondary introductions, which can be assessed by the fact that they lack Solaris Symmetry and one of the Species/species-like four base cultivars in their ancestry, will show slightly above average expression of a wide range of traits, but will not far exceed the average high end, because they do not have the genetic heritage that would allow that. They were screened for resistance, but are not bred for resistance, because they derive from the standard gene pool of hybrids.
Those bred from 2011 through 2015 were screened for rust resistance. Thrips resistance screening began in earnest in 2013 and continues on to this day. Those bred from 2015 through approximately 2020 have only been screened for thrips resistance, as my rust screening had concluded by that time, but they will generally not be exceptional for thrips resistance, because they are the foundation of selection that, through combining them with exceptionally thrips resistant lines like Solaris Symmetry, can go on to produce lines of fancier flowers on robust plants with species/species-like ancestry and exceptional traits derived from the tiny handful of exceptional ancestors that are the foundation of my program. Many plants produced after 2019 will have higher thrips resistance, because it was in 2019 that I was able to finally start crossing proven breeders for high thrips resistance.
Many of the secondary cultivars in my program are excellent plants, but will not be cutting edge on every trait. In my program, they serve as a reservoir of fancy flower genetics, combined with the best plant traits I could A) find in their ancestors, and B) select through screening the seedlings. It is only now, over a decade into my program that I am beginning to make the breeding strides combining the four bases and the best secondary and tertiary lines. I am past the point of just trying to find anything to breed and combine with the tiny number of exceptional plants I had identified. I am now reaching the point where I am beginning to establish lines that incorporate the best traits of my F1 Introductions from the Four Bases and the best secondary introductions coming from the best of the secondary and tertiary crosses I screened through the first decade of my program.
These Secondary Introductions represent my screening work, but they are not really fully representative of my breeding, because they are often only a generation or two removed from other people’s programs, and so are not far enough removed, or infused with the genetics of the Four Bases, to really be something very different from the standard hybrid tetraploid gene pool. They are a tool within my program, required to reach my final goals, and I make many of them available to other growers through introduction as they are often excellent garden plants, breeders and as good as most other daylily from the standard tetraploid gene pool, and in some instance, better in one or more important traits.
Here is a listing of my tetraploid introductions to date (2024) that I consider to comprise the secondary level of my introductions (ordered by date of introduction).
Elizabethan Courtly Love, Elizabethan Sharp Wit, Glow Of The Heart, Solar Disk, Arrowhead Star, Bela’s Star, Dragon Princess, Elizabethan Persistence, Flaming Candelabra, I See Your Teeth, Substance Upon Substance, Black Hole Sun, Elizabethan Fairy Queen, Elizabethan Lace Collar, Elizabethan Royalty, Explosion Of Substance, Solar Soul, Welded Dragon, Elizabethan Argus, Elizabethan Fine Gloves , Elizabethan Minerva, Elizabethan Rainbow Portrait, Emerald Trader, Little Dragon On The Prairie, Elizabethan Fantasia
Wednesday, May 15, 2024
A Discussion of Selection and Breeding for Thrips and other Insect Predator Resistance
A Preliminary Discussion of Selection and Breeding for Resistance to Thrips and other Insect Predators in Daylilies
My breeding program began in 2010, with the first major round of seed production happening in 2011. Even before I had started my program, as I planned the program I would pursue in 2008 and 2009, I planned to select for resistance to pests and pathogens, because that mirrored the work I had previously done with poultry (immunogenetics), and was an area of interest for me. Having grown daylilies since the mid 1970s, I had always noticed the frequent spottiness of flowers in anthocyanin pigmented types. I also noticed problem behaviors like bud drop, enations, spottiness and even fully blasted young scapes. Until I began to consider a daylily breeding program, I had not looked at the causes of all these problems, but I repeatedly found references to thrips issues. I knew there were thrips endemic to my very dry, south-facing property with sandy soil - thrips heaven! So I knew rust and thrips would be two major areas of selection for me, but I was not able to start selecting effectively for either within the first couple of years of my program. Rust didn’t not appear until the late summer of 2012, and I did not have a major thrips outbreak until the very dry spring of 2013. I knew that because rust is not endemic to my area, I would make my rust resistance selection time period coincide with the time when I would be brining in the most new plant material to build my daylily breeding program. I let the near-certainty of getting rust when buying a lot of daylilies from a lot of different sources become an asset rather than a problem. However, I set my rust resistance breeding program for five years, at which time I cut back on bringing in plants and the last few plants I brought in went through quarantine and never produced any rust. I haven’t brought in new plants since 2019.
Before I proceed to speak about my own thrips resistance selection program, I want to mention that I know some people feel that Aphids are responsible for things attributed to thrips. In my garden, I only rarely see aphids, but I do see thrips, and issues like enations, bud drop, flower deformity and spotting of petal pigmentation all increase when thrips swarms occur here (generally in dry spring weather). I do not see as many issues with thrips in the late summer and fall. They are predominantly a spring issue here. With that said though, while I know thrips are what I am working with, I do believe that any sap-feeding insect with a proboscis can likely cause all of these same issues, so I am completely open to other insect pests such as aphids causing these same issues in other gardens. I do not believe this is an either/or proposition, but that the symptoms I have described above can be attributed to ‘insect predators’, generally, rather than having to say that these issues are diagnostic of one particular insect predator. I will use ‘thrips’ and ‘insect predators’ interchangeably, but acknowledge that the culprit may not be thrips in someone else's garden. I believe the methods I am using will work in selection for any insect predation, and I would not be surprised if the resistance factors I am observing for thrips may work for more than one genera of predator insects. But even if each type of insect has to have specific resistance to deter them, the manner of locating resistant individuals with breeding value and selecting for resistance would be pretty much the same. That allows this article to be useful to anyone having an insect issue who might want to breed for natural resistance to insect predators. My specific references here will apply to what I am selecting for, but you can use the process to select resistance to whatever you choose.
At times in my life while growing daylilies as garden flowers, we would have dry years, and I would notice that flowers of dark colored and red cultivars often looked deformed and spotty. I just assumed it was drought related, and of course it was. To be specific, I would later learn that times of drought produce thrips swarms in my garden. I was graphically reminded of how bad that can get in the spring of 2013, and again in 2014 and 2015. We have actually had a series of ‘perfect storm’ springs throughout much of the past decade + that have a combination of late, hard freezes in April/May, drought in April/May/June, and then the resultant thrips swarm during the drought. I knew I would be selecting for “thrips resistance” from reading old articles about daylilies. I tried to find plants to purchase with resistance to thrips, but never found any that were known, proven quantities for such, though I did find a few rust resistant cultivars at the start. When those first drought years hit, that gave me a chance to begin to select for cultivars that performed the best in these conditions. At first I wasn’t specifically doing “thrips resistance selection”. I simply marked the plants that performed normally or close to normally. In those first years - 2013 through 2015 - I culled thousands of plants for a total absence of resistance - what I refer to as either a “thrips meltdown” or, depending on your pronouns, an “insect predation meltdown”.
Such a meltdown can be characterized by the following behaviors - 50%+ bud drop, blasted scapes with no intact buds, extreme enation deformity of buds resulting in severally deformed flowers (especially sepals), and heavy spotting and pigment loss in petal pigmentation. During that period I also set out to confirm that I was seeing thrips instead of another insect predator, which I did to my satisfaction. One important thing that I observed is that the issue of thrips is most extreme in the early-early and early season, moderating some in midseason, and showing little impact in late season in my garden. Early-early and early flowering cultivars have consistently been the worst effected and the hardest area to find plants to breed from, to the extent that I almost gave up on the early season entirely. Luckily, I found a few plants in the early part of the season that showed exceptional resistance and have been able to work from them in establishing early season types that perform well in areas with late freezes and insect predation issues.
From the year 2013 through 2015, I was not really breeding for thrips resistance, but was, first and foremost, confirming that there even was resistance to the thrips (and whatever other combination of factors were involved, such as late freeze tolerance and drought tolerance), and secondly, if any suspected resistance I might locate was genetic and heritable. What I found was surprising. First, no daylily I tested has ever shown immunity to thrips/thrip-related-issues. Second, those that do show high resistance are extremely rare, far rarer in fact than plants with high rust resistance. By 2016 I had identified a tiny handful of highly thrips resistant cultivars and seedlings and experimental breeding started in earnest. That was eight years ago as of this writing (2024). I feel that I am now in a position to make some preliminary assessments of the project. The most important thing is that there is a strong correlation between high resistance and breeding ability, implying that resistance is genetic and heritable. The key, then, becomes to identify plants with exceptional thrips resistance to begin with. That is easily done in gardens that become dry and also have endemic thrips populations. For other insects, under the right conditions for those insects, selection for resistant individuals should be possible.
The next most important thing is to consider the genetic makeup of the resistance trait. To begin, about 15% of daylilies in my garden showed some resistance to thrips. They were not immune, nor did they show exceptional resistance, but they did not suffer “thrips meltdown”. I found fewer than ten cultivars/seedlings that showed exceptional resistance to thrips, and oddly, most of the resistance was in tetraploids, with almost no diploids showing exceptional resistance. Further, I have located no species types that show exceptional resistance (or really, much resistance at all) to thrips. H. vespertina appears to have some resistance, but that may only because it flowers so late in the season. However, I believe that, much like exceptional rust resistance, exceptional thrips resistance is a concentration of multiple genetic factors.
Because there is something of a bell-curve in observable thrips resistance, that further supports a quantitative trait. In breeding, we see mixed results. Of the resistant individual plants that I identified, breeding experiments were not immediately straightforward. In some instances, resistance appeared to be recessive, not showing up in the F1 seedlings, while the same cultivar, in another cross, would appear to be expressing the resistance trait as a dominant or partially dominant trait. I suspect this implies that the alternate partner in the later scenario was carrying enough recessive genes complimentary to the resistance genes of the resistant parent that resistance appeared in some of the seedlings as an apparent (observable) trait. This further implies that at least some, if not all, of the genes involved are recessive, though some may be dosage specific dominants that have low penetrance in heterozygotes, especially so in tetraploids.
So I think that thrips resistance, and perhaps insect predator resistance in general, may be a multigenic, recessive trait - a complex of multiple recessive genes. That makes a program hard to get going (which may explain why there is so much thrips susceptibility in Hemerocallis), but once the genes become concentrated into homozygosity they are very effective and appear with high regularity in the subsequent generations. Recessive traits are hard to work with initially, but once you concentrate your lines with those recessive genes, first as heterozygotes and then later as homozygotes, you see the trait with increasing frequency in subsequent generations of seedlings. However, what it does make more difficult is outcrosses. Once you have a line set for a complex of recessive traits, outcrossing will see the trait “vanish” in the F1 outcross to the unselected gene pool, and it will require either backcrossing to the resistant line or interbreeding siblings to start to bring the trait back out and visibly present. When working with heterozygotes for a multigenic recessive trait, backcrossing to a homozygote for the said trait complex will result in the maximum number of homozygotes (which will still be low, especially in tetraploids), while sibling mating will result in fewer homozygotes, but can produce a few.
In my experience, the most effective strategy is to cross any exceptionally resistant individuals you can find with each other, and cross your fingers while your at it. They won’t always match up their genes perfectly, and so even in that instance, you may not get a crop of seedlings where all show resistance as high as the parents, but a few might, and in rare instances, you might get a full crop of very good to exceptionally resistant seedlings. The next best strategy (one I have used a lot, and that I think is the most practical) is to cross an exceptionally resistant individual with a very good to highly resistant individual. In more practical language, you cross the best with those that are just a bit less in regards to resistance. These crosses usually produce a crop where the majority are at the level of the less resistant parent, but a few may be more resistant or even exceptional, and all will carry the genes of the more resistant parent and can be backcrossed to that parent or another exceptionally resistant cultivar.
The third type of cross is the ‘salvage cross’ where you cross an exceptionally resistant individual with an individual showing poor or no resistance. This type of cross can be very frustrating, as the entire crop will tend to show poor resistance, but will carry resistance genes. In rare instance, the poorly resistant parent may have carried some of the resistance genes in a heterozygous state, and so a few seedlings within the cross may be more resistant than the poorly resistant parent. Pick those if they occur! However, my experience is that this is very rare, and even then, the “more resistant” seedling(s) rarely show resistance near that of the exceptional parent. The key with all the crosses is to not expect much in the F1 and to take the best of the F1 back to something of high or exceptional resistance, be patience, observe minutia and persist with selection and mating best to best, once you have a few exceptional resistant individuals to work with.
Selection for rust resistance is much easier than selection for thrips resistance, but I would never have been able to make rust resistance selection the center of my program simply due to my location, and there are a good number of daylilies that show rust resistance. I do not have endemic rust, but I absolutely have endemic thrips, and in my environment those “perfect storms” of late freezes and spring drought create frequent and recurring opportunities to make this type of selection, simply by doing nothing but making the observations, and then making breeding decisions based upon those observations. I don’t have to “bring in” thrips and bad weather. So since 2016, thrips resistance selection has become one of the central focuses within my program, building upon the initial observations and culling through the years of 2013 - 2015.
However, it is important to stress that just because this type of selection is a central focus, that does not mean all my introductions show exceptional thrips resistance. At this point, I have three introductions (listed below at the end of this article) that are truly exceptional in terms of their thrips resistance. All my introductions have been screened for thrips resistance, but because almost no daylilies show much resistance to thrips, and it is a slow breeding process due to the nature of the genes involved, I am only now beginning to see lines forming where the majority of the seedlings are showing extremely high to truly exceptional thrips resistance. What I have done in my selection process is to eliminate all those cultivars and seedlings that were very susceptible, while retaining those that are above average, but above average doesn’t mean immune or exceptional, it just means better than average. Selection only works within the parameters of what is available. The majority of my introductions show some thrips susceptibility, but all have been selected to eliminate high susceptibility, and so all my introductions are the most thrips resistant/late spring freeze tolerant of their own seedling group. Such plants likely carry some genes for resistance, but are not highly concentrated for the trait, as in exceptional individuals.
My breeding program is based in twenty-year increments, and I fully expect to have lines with exceptional thrips resistance, and introductions from such lines, by the time I reach the first twenty-year mark within my program. That is only about six years away at this point. With many of my introductions to date, I have been attempting to spread the best rust resistance plants/genes I was able to locate and concentrate within my breeding work, and so I felt it important to introduces such plants to be of benefit to Southern growers who may want to grow rust resistant plants or even breed for rust resistance, even if the thrips resistance was not at the level I would have preferred. I can say that that all of my introduction have been selected to remove high thrips susceptibility and so all are average or above average for the trait when compared to the general daylily gene pool.
Over the last couple of years I have begun to consistently produce the level of thrips resistance I want to see within certain lines, and it is clear to me that I am both recognizing the best breeders for the trait and concentrating the genes in my tetraploid breeding lines. Complex traits such as thrips resistance cannot easily be merely selected for within a random population, because the genes in homozygous combinations are so rare and the genes are so hard to identify in heterozygotes, so they have to be selected for over time through an understanding of how the genes work, identification of exceptional breeding material and concentration of desired genes over multiple generations. In common language, “it’s not easy”, but it can be done with patience, observation and singular focus.
So in closing, I want to give you a list of the exceptional cultivars for thrips resistance that I have been able to identify, in case anyone wants to begin to integrate the trait into their programs. I suspect there should be a few more exceptional cultivars out there somewhere. To identify them, just don’t spray your plants in thrips swarms and watch what happens. Those that remain unaffected, even when thrips or whatever insect predator are swarming all over the plants and flowers, are likely to have resistance and are the place you want to start with selection. Keep observing such plants year after year and cross such plants with other plants showing apparent moderate to high thrips resistance. Observe the seedlings. Once you have identified a plant that is both showing exceptional resistance and can produce seedlings showing exceptional resistance (even in only in the F2, depending what you crossed it with), then you have something to work from, and your breeding and selection for this type of resistance can proceed.
Thrips Resistant Individuals
(These are cultivars that I have identified within my own program as showing exceptional thrips resistance/late spring freeze tolerance and having breeding value for the trait)
From other hybridizers:
Solaris Symmetry
Spider Man
Whooperee
Small World Hip-Hop Music
Tis Midnight
From my own introductions:
Samwise The Brave
Misty Mountains Cold
Sun Dragon

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